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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 3, 2024 18:54:30 GMT
Thanks for your post, viking1234Because the Mérode stamps of Belgium are so heavily forged, I have not sought them out up to this point. But I certainly understand your interest in them, and that it would be a great study to examine these in detail, and hopefully find a genuine example here or there, among all the forgeries. I only have a few of these stamps in my accumulation, and I just assume that they are most likely forgeries, but I have not examined them closely yet. Here is an online resource that I have found that shows how to tell genuine from forged examples of these stamps: stampforgeries.blogspot.com/2021/02/belgium-1914-merode.htmlThe Belgium stamps I have recently been sorting out have been primarily post-1930 issues. The earlier issues are intended for my collection, and I will organize those at a later time to determine the keepers and the duplicates. Once I get to my Mérode issues, I will make a post in one of the subject or country-specific threads. Thanks again for your comments in the area of your collecting passion!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 3, 2024 18:02:52 GMT
JeffS Many thanks for your follow-up on this interesting stamp! Truthfully, I am still on the fence about it. Any chance you would be willing to take a photo of it alongside your best example of a PB 4d blue? I would like to see it that way for a side-by-side comparison. Warren ( wm ) Thanks for your post. According to SG in London, BPA is considered the best expertizing services provider for Cape Triangles. That said, I have not yet had the chance to try them out, so no personal experience there to refer to. I have been toying with the idea of using them, but I am a bit nervous about shipping my most prized stamps all over the place. I am planning to go to the UK this summer, so I might take my material with me, and then try to get it to BPA. If I recall correctly, BPA uses a PO box for submissions, so I don't think it's normally possible to deliver items by any other means than using the mail. I really need to get in touch with them to see if I can determine if there are any options that seem more secure to me. And even if I could get my items to them securely, I would be concerned about a package back from the UK being held up in US Customs, which seems to have become a black hole in the last few years. It's a bit of a conundrum there, I think. But you asked about expertizing services for being based in the US. I have used the APS service before (APEX), but it wasn't for Cape Triangles. The last time was several years ago, and the service itself seemed OK to me, but I don't know who they have on Cape Triangles. At one point a few years ago, I found a certificate for a Cape Triangle in the APEX database that indicated it was genuine when it was clearly a common forgery. APEX has since corrected the cert for that particular stamp, but I have been mistrustful of their capabilities with respect to Cape Triangles ever since. Another consideration should also be whether the determination on a stamp is being made by a single person, or a group of more than one "expert" that needs to be in agreement in order to arrive at a decision. I can imagine points in favor of both possible paths, depending on how you see the world! My old Dad used to say that "a camel is a horse designed by a committee," with the idea that group projects based on consensus decision-making sometimes yield muddled results. I would also comment that most of the certificates on Cape Triangles that I have seen that appear problematic (in my opinion!) have been rendered by individuals rather than groups. There was one very well-respected US-based dealer, now deceased, who certified a number of Cape Triangles that I have always thought were flat-out wrong. I am willing to discuss that by PM or private email, if desired. Bottom line: I don't currently know of a US-based expertizing source for Cape Triangles that I trust. As a general observation, we must always keep in mind that even expertizing certificates are, in the end, only opinions, not unlike a medical diagnosis. In difficult cases, it may be possible to get as many different opinions as there are reviewers of the item. And while it's always nice to have others tell us what we want to hear, I suppose we have to be aware that sometimes, that may be exactly what they are doing. As you can see, I am still deeply conflicted on this subject!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 3, 2024 7:13:36 GMT
New Year’s Greetings from Las VegasHappy 2024 to all stampers far and wide! I hope this post finds you as well as you can be! I used the holiday break to get in some nice stamp time. I finished up the large quantity of Belgium that I found from the big gift lot. I like Belgium, mind you, but the sheer number of stamps was a bit daunting, and I was ready for a change. Glad to have that one for the moment. I will return to Belgium down the road to finish organizing the keepers. After getting Belgium to its current stopping point, I decided to open another envelope from the big gift lot, which had a mixture of stamps from various countries in it, the largest grouping of which was from Cuba. My wife and I drove to Las Vegas on Sunday for a short getaway. I spent New Year’s Day in our hotel room watching football and working on Cuba, both the batch from the big gift lot and my holdings. It was a nice start to 2024! Stay stampy, all!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 29, 2023 4:00:48 GMT
I understand your point, Kevin ( wakeybluenose)! This does happen on occasions when there isn’t enough space on the front of the envelope to put the sticker without partially covering the stamps. When there is enough space, the postal clerks are generally pretty good about avoiding the stamps.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 28, 2023 20:37:30 GMT
rod222wakeybluenoseThe reason for the $0.00 sticker is to provide a barcode for the package. This is important if it is for a tracked shipment, and the sender chooses to use adhesive stamps rather than a computer-generated label.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 28, 2023 18:22:04 GMT
Sorry I missed this post back when you made it, Rob ( REL1948). It's interesting info that I had not heard about before! A post like this would have made a fine article for the Newsletter. If you have other informative little stories like this one, I hope you will consider submitting it for the next issue! Anyway, many thanks for a really nice post, and sorry for my lateness in spotting it!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 27, 2023 22:26:33 GMT
michael In deference to you, I will not remove or edit your post for the moment, but that only applies as long as Admin does not receive any complaint emails from the eBay seller, as has happened on previous occasions. That said, I don't generally like naming sellers, as it is unnecessary. If an item is shown with all of the listing info, as done in my post, any of our members could easily go to eBay, search for the item and learn the identity of the seller. I also stand by my previous comment that an item cannot legitimately be a reproduction of something that never existed in the first place. If the Crown Agents did not have this stamp printed up in 1936 and then decided not to issue it, it is a complete fantasy or bogus issue, and not a reproduction in any real sense of the word. Also, as I stated in my earlier posts, the one seller you have mentioned is not the only one selling these same items. I do not know if the two are working in collaboration, or if they are even one in the same entity, but the identical reproductions of the HK overprints are being offered at GBP 25 per copy, with nothing in the descriptions about their being reproductions. This listing below is also not listed as a reproduction and clearly a forgery, as there is no hint of a watermark on the views of the back, and it looks like it was made recently, rather than being 110+ years old.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 27, 2023 19:32:42 GMT
More Modern Forgeries on eBay Hong Kong: Claimed to be Unissued King Edward VIII Definitive StampThis is another item from the same seller, which is also claimed to be a reproduction. My opinion is that something can only be considered as a reproduction if it actually legitimately existed in the first place. Has any member ever seen an unissued HK KEVIII stamp? Of any kind? There are multiple different ones currently on eBay, and my opinion is that they are completely bogus and don't even qualify as reproductions. I have seen unissued KEVIII stamps before, notably one from Australia, but I have never seen any from Hong Kong. A general web search of "Hong Kong unissued King Edward VIII Stamp" did not provide any further info. Comments and opinions are welcome, of course!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 27, 2023 19:16:31 GMT
More Modern Forgeries on eBay Latest: Hong Kong High-CV Overprints & High-Denomination StampsI just wanted to let members know that today I discovered some dozens of listings for rare HK items that are clearly modern forgeries. Many from one seller do state that the items are "reproductions," but as you can see below, that important fact does not appear in the listing title. You have to scroll down to the detailed description to find that little tidbit. There seem to be two sellers, both based in the UK, who are offering this stuff. And I note that there are some items that seem to be of the same like-new appearance that are listed without the "reproduction" note in the description, as well as other material that is just plain bogus. I will collect a few more images and post them here, but I wanted to make others aware of this.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 27, 2023 18:32:05 GMT
Forgeries exist of the 1874 Issue 1, 3, 4, 7, 14 Cents
No Watermark and No Hyphen between DANSK and VESTINDISKE Quite right, Rod. As you haven't shown any details about the features of those forgeries, aside from mentioning the missing hyphen and watermark, I would also mention that the printing and lettering on those forgeries is pretty poor, and it becomes obvious that there is a problem if you compare one of the forgeries side by side with a genuine example. Almost all of the 14c I have ever seen on eBay have been forgeries. The one I bought and salvaged was the first genuine example I ever saw on the site. There are also forgeries of many of the other DWI stamps, including the later Numeral Issues and the postage dues. On the later Numeral Issues, the quality of those forgeries is generally much better than the earlier ones with the missing hyphen. See example below: Danish West Indies, 1877 Numeral Issue Genuine versus Forgery Personal notations: The color of the vignette has much more yellow in it than the genuine ones, which are more blue-green, at least to my eye. I also note that the "/" through the "O" in OER is missing, as is the period "." after CENTS. Also, the "S" in CENTS is misshapen, and it looks more like a numeral 5 or an inverted and reversed "2" than a proper "S", again, at least to my eye. Perhaps others can spot more differences.... Source: stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-danish-west-indies/Many thanks to TSF Member Morten ( classicalstamps ), who is the founder and owner of the Stamp Forgeries website, a great resource!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 24, 2023 21:58:00 GMT
Sorry to hear it, Steve ( tomiseksj).... it seems you have had a run of bad luck recently with all these misidentifications. Here's hoping that the next ones will be exactly what they are supposed to be!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 24, 2023 17:43:54 GMT
Just giving this thread a bump to the top of the heap, as it seems to be one of the trending topics right now, sadly. I hope the best for all concerned, and if it is possible for Rich and his family to rebuild, I hope they will find the strength to do it!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 24, 2023 4:28:05 GMT
Thanks for your posts, Andy PastuszakI have combined your new thread into this existing one, which is on exactly the same topic.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 23, 2023 19:40:31 GMT
Well, I understand your situation, Stan ( stainlessb), as I have had a couple of incidents over the years myself! What I do now is put the drink on a separate tray table or sideboard, which is at a lower level. My desk is set up with a sideboard, and if I find myself at the kitchen table, which is a favorite haunt where I live now, I use the tray table. I also had a near miss with a water spill near my laptop, which has only reinforced the precaution of keeping liquids away from things that can be damaged by a spill.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 23, 2023 16:56:26 GMT
OK, I have decided it would be better to create a new thread in the TSF Newsletter Feedback board than to carry on in the APS AoD Polling thread. Please offer comments and suggestions on the last two issues here in this thread. Thanks!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 23, 2023 16:15:58 GMT
Many thanks for your kind words, Chris ( cjoprey ), and thanks even more for your excellent contribution to our Newsletter! I find that I am enjoying the editorial process even more than I thought I would, which makes it a fun project for me to put each Newsletter together. In that regard, I would like to thank all those who volunteer their time and help with that process when they can: Rob ( REL1948 ), Steve ( tomiseksj ), and Jerry ( Jerry B ). And of course, I am so grateful to all the authors for their excellent contributions, which were a pleasure to review and lay out. We had three first-time contributors to the TSF Newsletter this time: Jerry B , Chris ( cjoprey ), and Joan ( cursus ), although it should be noted that Joan is an experienced philatelic author who has written articles for other publications. Returning authors included Linda , Stan ( stainlessb ), and Terri ( philatelia ), who have provided three more wonderful articles for everyone's reading pleasure. I suppose it was largely thanks to happenstance, but I am particularly pleased with the diversity of contributions we have this time around. It's just a very nice range/variety of articles, which I think make for especially interesting read if you take the sequential approach in going through the issue. Also, I added a small feature for upcoming philatelic events, partly in response to the APS judges' comments but also because it seemed like a reasonable idea. Please feel free to post comments on what you think of that feature and if it is worthwhile to keep it going. Anyway, thanks again to all who contributed to this quarter's issue of the Newsletter!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 22, 2023 17:35:57 GMT
Thanks for your comments, mberry and rod222. I took a look at my earlier posts about the Lillie Langtry labels, and it seems I may not have made it clear that in the end, I used a citrus-based cleaning fluid called Goo Gone to remove the labels from the bottles, and it worked very well. I imagine it to be similar to what Rod posted about. I was inspired to use Goo Gone based on posts made by Steve ( tomiseksj), who had good success using something similar on US self-adhesive stamps. Benton-Lane Winery, Willamette Valley, Oregon Stamp-Like Wine LabelsTo me, the US winery best known for stamp-like wine labels is Benton-Lane. They have been doing these types of labels for as long as I can remember, and I see that the winery was founded in 1988. I don't currently have a bottle handy, so the images below have been taken from the internet. I will make an effort to get to a wine shop sometime over the holidays to get a bottle or two and see if I can safely remove the labels. Stay tuned for future updates on that. Recent Benton-Lane labels that bear a distinct resemblance to US stamp definitive issues from the 1910s-1920s. Image source: benton-lane.com/Even the Benton-Lane Winery sign looks like a postage stamp! Not sure I have a stock book big enough for a copy of this one.... Image credit: Erik Wait, blogsite: 1.bp.blogspot.com/Benton+Lane+Winery+1+-+Erik+Wait.JPG
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 22, 2023 15:07:32 GMT
Very cool, JeffS .... I love the Chaffey brothers connection! Yes indeed, the Chaffey brothers are the famous founders of the community where I am now living! The local high school is named after them, as well as many other things. And of course, they came here from the province of Ontario in Canada, hence the origin of city name here. When my wife and I traveled to Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario this past August, when we visited a local historical museum there, we saw more on the origin story of the Chaffey brothers, whose adventures clearly took them far and wide! Coming back to the Southern California connection, the area of Ontario-Upland-Etiwanda was a major agricultural region back in the late 19th Century, which included citrus groves, apple orchards, and vineyards. By the 1970s, the value of the real estate became so high that the agricultural areas started to disappear in favor of housing and business development. There are still a few remnants of the past history in our area, but most of it is gone now. Euclid Avenue is still the main street that runs north-south and connects Ontario and Upland. Below is an image of an orange-crate label from the early days, which shows not only the citrus groves lining the street, but also the old trolley car system that used to run there. Mount Baldy, our famous local peak, is shown in the background. I always thought this vintage label would make a nice DIY Cinderella stamp, and I might do something with that over the holidays!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 21, 2023 22:15:05 GMT
JeffS: I have been meaning to let you know that the annual National Orange Show Fair takes place in San Bernardino, California, which is about a 30 or 40-minute drive from where I am now living. If there is something you would like to have from there, please let me know, and I would be happy to go and get it for you. Do you know if they do any sort of philatelic stuff, like a show cancel or anything?
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 21, 2023 4:58:59 GMT
An Update on Jim's CollectionI was contacted again this week by Jim's widow to let me know that she has chosen Kelleher to handle the auction of his collection. Jim had an extensive amount of material, both stamps and postal history, much of which he apparently bought from Kelleher in the first place. URL: www.kelleherauctions.com/In any case, the current plan is for the material to be packaged and picked up sometime in the next couple of weeks, and the auction will take place in February or March 2024. I will post again here on the Forum once I have more concrete info. For now, just FYI.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 21, 2023 4:22:34 GMT
Please select your favorite article from this issue by checking the box to the left of its title in the poll above.
Please Note: You will not see the poll if viewing posts using the "Recent Posts" function—you must navigate to the poll's thread to make your selection.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 18, 2023 20:18:49 GMT
laedingMany thanks for your kind response. I am glad that enjoyed seeing the “philatelic surgery” on the small DWI lot that included the 14c. To tell the truth, I enjoy these sorts of little salvage projects, and I am especially proud of how well the DWI lot turned out. Thanks for your further comments about some of my other DWI stamps, both from the salvage lot as well as the rest of my collection. Yes, I did know about the 7c pair, and in fact, it was correctly identified by the eBay seller in the listing, and I had also checked it. I normally don’t collect pairs, but this one was cheaper than other single copies, so I grabbed it when I had the chance. I haven’t checked for other less-common varieties in my DWI collection, so if you spot any interesting ones, please feel free to let me know. No rush, just when time permits. I had noticed the red cancel on the 10c, but had no idea it was a PAID LONDON mark. Are you able to post a better example that shows what a good strike would look like? Thanks much for that info!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 18, 2023 5:33:40 GMT
Thanks for your comments, rod222I haven’t done the soaking yet, but I will probably give it a try by this coming weekend. I hadn’t really thought about the yellow color of the envelope being fugitive. Perhaps I will soak some other part of the envelope first, separately, to see if it is colorfast or not. Thanks again!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 20:18:42 GMT
Many thanks for your responses, hdm1950, swvl, and Philatarium! Ok, so we have a Scott number for the 500R stamp from 2021, but not yet for the butterflies from 2022. I can see that I will need to spend some time learning how to navigate Colnect, a task with which I have long struggled. Does Colnect give any info on catalogue value for the 500R in used condition? If not, I will make do with at least indicating the Scott number. Thanks again, all!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 17:40:08 GMT
Greetings, all! I checked my Scott 2013 WW Catalogue, but I could not find the Sri Lanka stamps shown below in there. I am under the impression that these were issued sometime after 2013. I would be grateful to any member who can tell me the Scott Catalogue numbers for these, as well as the catalogue values, and which edition of the catalogue you are using. Many thanks for your help!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 17:31:49 GMT
Recent Package from Sri LankaMy wife recently bought a DVD from a 3rd-party seller on Amazon, and much to her surprise, it turned out that the seller was located in Sri Lanka! So, the bonus for me was some strips of recent Sri Lankan issues, which were used on the package. The postmarks are not very distinct, but the stamps are nice enough, and I am planning to soak them off and use them as trading material.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 16:36:33 GMT
laedingI just wanted to say thank you for all the informative posts you made yesterday. That was some very good information about how the stamps were used and the resulting fiscal cancels, as my 14c copy seems to illustrate. Just an observation: it seems to me that they went way overboard on the fiscal-cancelling practices. If these were later sold to collectors, I would have thought that using the circular cancel in one corner to put a quarter-circle on each of four stamps would have been much more efficient. They certainly would have looked better, with the idea that the stamps were eventually going to be sold to collectors. By the way, if you are interested to see how I was able to clean up the DWI 14c from its original state, which was completely pasted down to an old album page with dark brown glue, please have a peek at this thread on "philatelic surgery": thestampforum.boards.net/post/165401/threadNow that you have explained about the practice and resulting appearance of DWI fiscal cancels during this time, I can see that there is at least one other example of a fiscal cancel (4c) in that small lot. All of the stamps in that small lot were fully pasted down to the page remnant with dark brown mucilage glue. They were a real mess, and fortunately for me, all were salvaged successfully. The 3c numeral was already damaged, but all of the other stamps turned out to be in sound condition, a real stroke of luck for me. I also appreciate your comment that the paper on which the 14c was printed is very thin. I noticed that, too, as I was going through the soaking and press-flattening process, and I was very concerned about handling it safely. Luckily, it worked out in this case! Anyway, thank you very much for all of the new information you have provided about the condition of these stamps and the fiscal-cancelling process in particular.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 2:56:50 GMT
Do you have in your records the date of the first DLR printing, and while I am asking, the earliest known date of a 4d DLR use? Thanks for your follow-up post, Jeff. In going back to Stevenson, he has compiled a table on p.104, which shows the dates of receipt of the stamps at the GPO in Cape Town. For the DLR prints, the first shipment was received in March, 1863 and the last one in June, 1864. This means that the first DLR stamps would have been printed late in 1862, as it took about 3 months for the stamps to go from London to Cape Town. As for earliest date of usage, Stevenson mentions on p.100 that covers exist showing usage of DLR 4d stamps in February 1864. That said, he does not specifically cite an earliest known usage date that I could find. There is a graph on p.106 of Stevenson that plots supply curves for Triangles and "probable consumpt(ion)" in the Cape Colony, but I don't see how to determine earliest usage from that, either.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 2:37:18 GMT
Beryllium Guy OK Chris. Here is a 4d offered as a DLR. To me the bright blue shade is more in keeping with PB, not DLR. Can we agree on this assessment?
(See earlier post for image.) I find this to be a tough one, Jeff. I have a stamp like this one, too, and it is one of the only ones in my accumulation, which I have never definitively identified one way or the other. I absolutely see your point about the color, and why you would say PB print. On the other hand, depending on which one of my devices I use to look at the image, on one it looks more like a PB blue, but on the other, it looks darker and more like a DLR print. I am honestly on the fence on this one. The only solace I can take in this is that even Stevenson wrote that he found a few stamps that he could not definitively place as either PB or DLR prints. Boy, I sure wish he had captured images of those! That would have been really interesting....
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 17, 2023 2:22:50 GMT
Right you are, JeffS! Sorry for figuring that you must have been accepting the seller's description, since you didn't make any comment to the contrary. Shame on me. At the very least, I am glad that my opinion didn't end up resulting in any disappointment on your part in your purchase. It is a truly uncommon item. In fact, I can't actually recall seeing one of these 1865 CDS postmarks on a Cape Triangle before. There may be a few out there somewhere, but I think this is a really rare item. I think you have a real knack for finding rare or unusual postmarks on these stamps, considering the other items you have also found (red and blue cancels). Thanks also for doing the peroxide treatment and posting the results, the changes in which I agree confirm that it is a PB print. But yes, your point is well taken, which is that it is the CDS postmark that matters, not whether the Triangle is a PB or DLR print. Once again, well done to you, and congratulations on a fabulous find!
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