JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jul 9, 2020 14:58:05 GMT
To hazard a guess, I would suggest Swiss from the cross and the K in the lettering something to do with Kinder, children as pictured on the stamp. Just a guess to get the ball rolling...
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Post by daniel on Jul 11, 2020 5:27:47 GMT
NKUF: Norges Kristelige Ungdomsforbund, Norwegian Christian Youth Federation founded in 1880, so the 50th anniversary. Now known as KFUK-KFUM Norge which translates as Christian Association for Young Women - Christian Association for Young Men Norway or simply YWCA YMCA.
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Post by thegubman on Jul 11, 2020 9:21:35 GMT
NKUF: Norges Kristelige Ungdomsforbund, Norwegian Christian Youth Federation founded in 1880, so the 50th anniversary. Now known as KFUK-KFUM Norge which translates as Christian Association for Young Women - Christian Association for Young Men Norway or simply YWCA YMCA. Excellent. Thanks very much. Graham |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 11, 2020 9:42:46 GMT
Very nice work, daniel! Thanks for your thorough response. Out of curiosity, did you already know about this group (NKUF) prior to Graham's ( thegubman) question, or did you research it? I was not familiar with the group or its initials, and I tried to do a little online searching using the initials, but I see now that I never got close to the real answer. Just wondering how you came up with it.... if you did find it by a web search, I would really like to learn more about how you did that. I am always trying to come up with better search techniques to improve results, and I clearly still have a lot to learn! Many thanks, Chris  |
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Post by daniel on Jul 11, 2020 10:17:49 GMT
Very nice work, daniel ! Thanks for your thorough response. Out of curiosity, did you already know about this group (NKUF) prior to Graham's ( thegubman ) question, or did you research it? I was not familiar with the group or its initials, and I tried to do a little online searching using the initials, but I see now that I never got close to the real answer. Just wondering how you came up with it.... if you did find it by a web search, I would really like to learn more about how you did that. I am always trying to come up with better search techniques to improve results, and I clearly still have a lot to learn! Many thanks, Chris Hi Chris, At first, I thought it was similar to another youth movement that I had come across but this proved not to be the case. I then did a Google search although it wasn't clear from the stamps whether it was NKUF or NKUE. I enjoy researching online to get my facts as accurate as possible but I am finding Google less useful, for NKUE, for example it kept suggesting BLUE! Then there is the tendency for Google to come up with book references or newspaper pages, both of these searches need to be ignored. I then added in the dates on the stamp and this was the key to making progress. NKUF and 1880 comes up with the relevant info. Thank you, Daniel |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 11, 2020 12:15:23 GMT
Nice one Daniel, My google of NKUF ( again I was unsure if it was F or E) produced the North Kentucky University Foundation! But as that just dates from 1946, it obviously did not fit!
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Post by thegubman on Jul 11, 2020 12:20:35 GMT
Like you guys first thing I did was google/eBay search for NKUF/NKUE 1930, but this came up with nothing that made sense. So what Daniel did was great detective work:)
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Post by daniel on Jul 29, 2020 22:19:23 GMT
Here's another query. I've had this little group for a while but didn't really know what to make of them. So, I have a few questions. Are they all cigarette related? How are the Veterans Administration labels related to the others? And would you classify them as Revenues, Cinderellas or Ephemera? Thanks.  Scan_20200729 (2) by Daniel, on Flickr |
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Post by daniel on May 16, 2021 20:34:10 GMT
Can anyone identify these musicians? The r symbol on the right identifies Reprise Records, a company founded by Frank Sinatra in 1960 but is now owned by Warner Music Group.
 Scan_20210516 (3) by Daniel, on Flickr
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on May 16, 2021 23:15:32 GMT
Is that Michael Nesmith and Davy Jones from the Monkees?
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on May 17, 2021 7:10:08 GMT
Looks just like Peter & Gordon! Wait, they didn't record for Warner / Reprise ...
Looks just like Chad & Jeremy! Wait, they didn't record for Warner / Reprise ...
Too bad it isn't Peter & Gordon - I really like them. Peter Asher was famous for a while as being Paul McCartney's prospective brother-in-law - McCartney gave the duo a leftover song which they promptly took to #1 in the heyday of Beatlemania. He had a long career in the business end of music, becoming James Taylor's manager, Linda Ronstadt's manager and then a VP for Sony Music, among other things. Austin Powers with red hair!
Ryan
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cindycan2
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Post by cindycan2 on May 17, 2021 13:17:48 GMT
I think the "W" logo in the upper left corner refers to Warner Bros-Seven Arts, which was active between 1967 and 1969. So the artists would be from that time frame. The artist on the red stamp looks a bit like Ray Davies of the Kinks, which issued a few albums during that time frame with reprise.
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Post by daniel on May 18, 2021 0:24:55 GMT
Thanks for all of the replies so far. I don't think that they are members of The Monkees especially since they weren't signed to Reprise. cindycan2, thanks for that extra information, that would seem to help to limit the search parameters and the 1960s seems about right. The difficulty is in finding images of potential candidates from that era. Ray Davies may be a possibility, I'm also getting Denny Laine as a possibility but he might be just a little too late with his Reprise contract. Also, there's no reason to think that they are both from the same group and for that matter were there any others? I purchased mine a few months ago but the same two are on ebay right now. The search continues... |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on May 18, 2021 0:50:14 GMT
My guess for the green stamp is Elton John- I saw him on his first "tour" and he wasn't yet intot he big frame glasses
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on May 19, 2021 1:16:32 GMT
I've posted the image on my Facebook page and asked there. I seem to have a number of friends who skew a little older and would have been young adults around that time (late '60s). I've gotten some suggestions, but, so far, none of those musicians were signed to Warner Bros - Seven Arts / Reprise either at all, or not during that time frame. ...
I've also asked a couple of other friends who might be in a position to know, and there are several others a little further distant in my network who might know, and I'll ask them if the initial requests don't come through. I'll report back in a few days and let you know what I've found out.
(In addition, I'm in Los Angeles, where a lot of the US record industry was based, so that may lead to some clues as well from friends.)
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Post by Philatarium on May 19, 2021 1:19:26 GMT
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jun 13, 2021 10:17:48 GMT
Bought today: two cinderellas of unknown origin:
The second looks Austrian, but it seems to be written in Polish... In 1936?
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 13, 2021 11:08:38 GMT
Interesting items Joan
The second is possibly Czech as “vedensky veletrh” translates to “Science Fair” ,
but it is a puzzle with the two headed eagle, and heavy Germanic ( 3rd Reich?) appearance in 1936,
Brezna appeared as a village in Serbia but that can’t be right……..brezna also translates as the month of March in Slovak.
I have been googling “Huile Imperiale” and come up with a range of suggestions , most of which I reject, Imperial Oil of Canada………. Guerlain beauty products Skin moisturiser , ……..gentleman’s Beard oil. None of these seem likely.
It reminds me of Belgian stamps , possibly Antwerp skyline ? and in the 1920s the Belgian Congo was a major producer of palm oil . The production was colonial controlled and seems to have involved indentured forced labour. There was a revolt in Leverville plantations operated by Lever brothers which became part of Unilever
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jun 13, 2021 11:22:06 GMT
Thank you very much, Alec. Brezna seems to mean "March" in Czech.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 13, 2021 11:27:55 GMT
Thank you very much, Alec. Brezna seems to mean "March" in Czech. yes I had just found that , and corrected my post above. We can forget Brezna as a place in Serbia… quite irrelevant as Serbia uses Cyrillic script anyway,! |
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Post by daniel on Jun 13, 2021 11:52:12 GMT
cursus the second one is advertising the Vienna Fair of 1936, the double-headed eagle was in use in Austria from 1934-1938. It is just a Czech language version of the poster used at the time. The WM stands for Wiener Messe.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jun 13, 2021 11:56:09 GMT
Thank you very much Daniel. So, my first guess as it being Austrian, was good.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 13, 2021 12:17:10 GMT
I see the W / M now. The double headed Eagle is a relic of the dual monarchy of Austria/ Hungary , the style in general tallies with the German 3rd Reich style and the rise of Social democrats party in Austria with the Anschluss just 2 years away. So if the text is Czech it looks like there may be other language versions out there for you to collect Joan. cursus. |
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Post by WERT on Jun 13, 2021 13:04:20 GMT
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cindycan2
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Post by cindycan2 on Jun 13, 2021 15:14:09 GMT
Huile Imperiale, two possible leads.
I found a reference* to this oil winning the Grand Prize at the 1910 Brussels Universal and International Exposition. The oil was manufactured by the "Societe anonyme des drogueries et huileries anversoises", of Antwerp, Belgium.
Here's a quick translation of the short paragraph (from French):
Grand Prize
The Antwerp Drug and Oil Company - Antwerp
The jury has especially noticed, among the products exposed by this company, its best-tasting edible vegetable oils "Huile royale" and "Huile imperiale" for salads and mayonnaises.
Next to these samples were cattle-cakes used to feed cattle.
This company had previously been awarded a diploma at the 1905 Exposition de Liege.
I found a second reference from a newspaper ad from the 27 Dec 1962 issue of Paris-press L'intransigeant, referring to "Huile Imperiale" as a moisturizing, anti-wrinkle, nourishing facial cream, available for 19 francs per vial, and distributed by "Institut de beaute des Champs-Elysees".
But I think 1962 is too recent for the look and design of the cinderella stamp in question.
*Exposition universelle et internationale de Bruxelles 1910. Section française, Groupe VII (classe 39). Produits agricoles alimentaires d'origine végétale / rapport par M. Maurice Launay, pp76-77.
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cindycan2
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Post by cindycan2 on Jun 13, 2021 15:32:50 GMT
And the image on the "Huile Imperiale" stamp looks suspiciously like a view from the harbour at Antwerp.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jun 13, 2021 16:07:44 GMT
I agree. So, it's a Belgian cinderella, from an Antwerpen company! Thank you very much, Cindycan. This site is unbeatable!
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Dec 15, 2021 2:34:12 GMT
This Cinderella or label is in rough shape but I do not like unsolved mysteries. It appears to be a mushroom from a company with a long history assuming 1763 is a date. 
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Dec 15, 2021 2:56:36 GMT
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Dec 15, 2021 3:41:19 GMT
That was fast darkormex . I kind of thought it was German or Austrian. Pilzwollen translates to mushroom wool. Fabrics was their business with the mushroom as their logo.
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