Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 15, 2021 4:24:50 GMT
In addition, I can add that GEGR is probably short for “gegründet” which means “founded”.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Dec 15, 2021 11:44:43 GMT
It was by searching "GEGR 1763" in google images that I found this .jpg in Wikimedia commons.
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Post by daniel on Dec 15, 2021 12:13:21 GMT
Good investigative work, better than I could manage. The 50 GRAMM and partial duplicate image would suggest that it was a wrapper for wool rather than a Cinderella. Nice graphic though.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Dec 15, 2021 12:58:51 GMT
Good investigative work, better than I could manage. The 50 GRAMM and partial duplicate image would suggest that it was a wrapper for wool rather than a Cinderella. Nice graphic though. |
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Post by stamphinger on Mar 16, 2022 17:09:13 GMT
I bought these product advertising labels at a local stamp club meeting and I'm trying to find the source and time period for them, with no success. I'm hoping someone on the forum recognizes them and knows where they came from and when. Is Highland Linen a proprietary name or a generic category of cloth products?
They have an Art Deco look about them, possibly from the late 1930s. Anyone recognize them? Thanks. Don StampHinger  |
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Post by daniel on Mar 16, 2022 17:43:59 GMT
I bought these product advertising labels at a local stamp club meeting and I'm trying to find the source and time period for them, with no success. I'm hoping someone on the forum recognizes them and knows where they came from and when. Is Highland Linen a proprietary name or a generic category of cloth products?
They have an Art Deco look about them, possibly from the late 1930s. Anyone recognize them? Thanks. Don StampHinger Hi Don, Highland Linen was a brand of writing paper and at some point appears to have been a part of Eaton's of New York. See this link and this link
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Mar 16, 2022 17:46:49 GMT
I bought these product advertising labels at a local stamp club meeting and I'm trying to find the source and time period for them, with no success. I'm hoping someone on the forum recognizes them and knows where they came from and when. Is Highland Linen a proprietary name or a generic category of cloth products?
They have an Art Deco look about them, possibly from the late 1930s. Anyone recognize them? Thanks. Don StampHinger Hi Don, Highland Linen was a brand of writing paper and at some point appears to have been a part of Eaton's of New York. See this link and this link
Daniel Also check out this link thestampforum.boards.net/thread/954/cinderellas-general?page=9 |
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Post by stamphinger on Mar 16, 2022 20:37:40 GMT
Many thanks daniel and Mr. H for the quick and informative posts. Your links were just what I needed to write-up these labels. There were nine different in my purchase, the same nine shown in de61's post of Jan 13, 2020. |
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rednaxela
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What I collect: Germany in all its facets since 1871 (especially German Reich used including postal statinoneries, used), USSR, Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Denmark, France. I design all album pages for my collection myself and partly make them available to the general public for use.
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Post by rednaxela on Jan 3, 2024 19:46:05 GMT
Thanks Ryan, Interesting conundrum, the Faroese at that time were a Danish "amt" state? not self governing, I would have thought appropriate under Denmark, but Scott catalogue confirms your advice. This stamp is listed in the AFA catalog of Nordic Christmas Seals. It was issued in the Faroes ( Føroyar / Færøerne ) in 1941. The text is in Faroese which is similar to Icelandic but not quite the same. The text (as near as I can figure) is "Aid for the Fatherless". The stamp is in the section for Childrens' charities ( Barnahjálpin / Børnehjælps-Fonden ) and is the first seal issued. The catalog has the following notation after this stamp: "Privately released charity stamp, the collection for the benefit of fatherless children. The collection, is carried out by a group of Faroese in Denmark". It exists on white paper and on yellowish paper, and is found perforated 11½x11½. The 2012 c.v. is DKK300 (around US$55) although their catalog values do tend toward a high retail price. Since all Faroes mail at this time went through Denmark, this cancellation is not unusual. In the meantime (in 2019) this cinderella with the flag of Faroe together with another one found its way on a Faroean souvenir sheet. Denmark was occupied by Germany during WW II, Faroe on the other hand by the British army ("friendly occupation" to prevent the occupation of the Faroe Islands by the Germans). As a result, there was virtually no postal traffic between Denmark and the Faroe Islands during war time. The two charity labels depicted on the souvenir sheet thus were initiated and published by Faroean citizens living in Denmark (flag 1941, mother 1945) and during war time were only used in Denmark for charity purposes (to support children who had lost their fathers as a result of the war).
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millersville
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Post by millersville on Jan 10, 2024 23:16:59 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available.  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 10, 2024 23:24:35 GMT
I'm bumping to see if, with the new influx of members, someone may know where/when these originated?   |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 10, 2024 23:45:58 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available. Nothing remotely similar to what I have seen. Look forward to it being identified. For me, a Phantasy, but for what purpose? PS: Not shown in Yvert & Tellier "Fiscaux et socio-posteaux" |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 10, 2024 23:47:52 GMT
I'm bumping to see if, with the new influx of members, someone may know where/when these originated? Switzerland Tourist cinderellas circa 1950?Swiss trial Prints 1936 see monograph Derrick M Slate with the assistance of John L Larson (Yours shows the "open top" tourist bus) Exist in colours : Violet, red, green, blue link |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 11, 2024 0:41:46 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available. Interesting item, Chris! Sorry to say that I have never seen it before. Let's tag some members with deeper knowledge in France or for unusual items to see if they can help: hrdoktorxstainlessbracatrienRyankhjdaniel |
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Post by daniel on Jan 11, 2024 0:51:32 GMT
I'm bumping to see if, with the new influx of members, someone may know where/when these originated? Stan, de61 gave an excellent explanation of these Swiss Trial Stamps here including the John L Larson link and I believe that I also responded to your query  Daniel |
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jan 11, 2024 5:31:05 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available. This is a completely uneducated guess here, but that looks hand-drawn to me. The frame is lumpy, especially at the upper right, and there is no consistency among the four corner "25" markings. Perhaps an essay / design submission which was later duplicated. And in the interest of giving this post at least a minimum of some real philatelic content, here is an early French postage due essay which was not adopted, found on a Cherrystone Auctions listing. This one looks more professionally done.  Ryan |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 11, 2024 6:13:00 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available. This is a completely uneducated guess here, but that looks hand-drawn to me. The frame is lumpy, especially at the upper right, and there is no consistency among the four corner "25" markings. Perhaps an essay / design submission which was later duplicated. And in the interest of giving this post at least a minimum of some real philatelic content, here is an early French postage due essay which was not adopted, found on a Cherrystone Auctions listing. This one looks more professionally done. Ryan
agree with your assessment
Nice image, these are the genuine (in my opinion) 1859 Postage Dues. (6 values)
The forgeries by Fournier and Sperati differ slightly (the slant of the "v" and watch the "s" may look upside down.
(Source : Evert Klaseboer )
The original poster's example not shown in Klaseboer, or Yvert and Tellier French revenues (assuming a revenue, no "postes" text on the label)
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Post by franoise on Jan 11, 2024 7:02:52 GMT
"chiffre-taxe" means "postage due stamp"
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jan 11, 2024 7:35:58 GMT
And in the interest of giving this post at least a minimum of some real philatelic content, here is an early French postage due essay which was not adopted, found on a Cherrystone Auctions listing.
Nice image, these are the genuine (in my opinion) 1859 Postage Dues. (6 values)Blast!! I didn't pay enough attention, I intended to post an essay, not an actual issued stamp! Oh well, go to that Cherrystone Auctions link and you can see a very similar stamp described as an essay. Ryan |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 11, 2024 8:49:56 GMT
"chiffre-taxe" means "postage due stamp" Hmmm, franoise, why then, does not the original poster's stamp not have "a percevoir" (On Notice) ? all the French Postage dues have "postes" aboard If, then the original poster's stamp is a postage due, then it is not listed anywhere, that I am aware of. Right, I stand corrected.
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Chiffre:
1: (with value in piastre) Turkey postage due.
2: (without country name) France (perforated) postage due.
3: (without country name) French Colonies (imperforate) postage due.
4: (Fr.) numeral.
Chiffre Taxe: (Fr.) inscription on postage due labels of France, French colonies and Turkey, post-1859.
Chiffre Taxe a Perçevoir: (Fr.) inscription on postage due labels of Egypt, post-1884
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 11, 2024 14:40:30 GMT
Thank you rod222 and daniel ! I did not see either posts earlier |
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 11, 2024 23:31:43 GMT
I found this stamp in a batch of France postage and postage due stamps and am leaning toward it being a fantasy, but am curious if anyone has background information available. This is believed to be a rejected design ~1870s. I've only seen one other example, and your pic is much better (consider it pilfered, thank you for posting the pic!!!). I don't know enough about it to be able to tell you if you have an original or reprint/reproduction/fake... |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 11, 2024 23:52:25 GMT
This is believed to be a rejected design ~1870s. I've only seen one other example, and your pic is much better (consider it pilfered, thank you for posting the pic!!!). I don't know enough about it to be able to tell you if you have an original or reprint/reproduction/fake...
Please! if you recall where you sourced the information, please enlighten us.
If it is not in Klaseboer, then I am mighty interested
Otherwise it is just hearsay. |
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 11, 2024 23:54:06 GMT
Rod, I recall it was in a series on postage dues in one of the French philatelic journals. Give me a little time to dig it up. I'm just itching for a reason not to be doing what I'm supposed to be doing...
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 12, 2024 0:02:04 GMT
Rod, I recall it was in a series on postage dues in one of the French philatelic journals. Give me a little time to dig it up. I'm just itching for a reason not to be doing what I'm supposed to be doing... Take your time, khj, I don't want to take you away from making the bed, and washing the dishes  (sadly no "wink" emoji) |
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 12, 2024 0:13:52 GMT
Actually rod222, I'm at the office right now, where I dutifully check to make sure the office scanner is functioning properly each day by scanning some philatelic literature -- the things I do to keep our office equipment always ready. (Note, the scanner is actually mine). The rejected essay is mentioned on pp68-69 of France & Colonies Philatelist wn134 (Oct1968).  In the above, I have combined pp 68-69, as the pic and related text appear on 2 different pages. Note that there is a typo, and the Fig. 7 mentioned in the text should be Fig. 5. Click on the link if you want that issue. I uploaded the periodical onto my philatelic cloud server. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 12, 2024 0:17:57 GMT
Actually rod222 , I'm at the office right now, where I dutifully check to make sure the office scanner is functioning properly each day by scanning some philatelic literature -- the things I do to keep our office equipment always ready. (Note, the scanner is actually mine). The rejected essay is mentioned on pp68-69 of France & Colonies Philatelist wn134 (Oct1968). In the above, I have combined pp 68-69, as the pic and related text appear on 2 different pages. Note that there is a typo, and the Fig. 7 mentioned in the text should be Fig. 5. Click on the link if you want that issue. I uploaded the periodical onto my philatelic cloud server. Wow! a hundred times, wow!  Brilliant! maestro, You are a legend. Thank you. |
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 12, 2024 0:20:22 GMT
Also, I neglected to mention, the "Fig. 7" in the text is also in the wrong spot. Both the pic shown by OP and in the journal are sans "POSTES", and therefore the "Fig. 5" text should be moved down 3 lines to the next section.
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 12, 2024 0:35:28 GMT
I checked Klaseboer, and that French postage due essay is mentioned, but you have to have his CD in order to see the pic. But thanks to millersville, we have a much better pic now. But as stated earlier, I don't know if the pic is of a genuine original. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 12, 2024 0:43:00 GMT
I checked Klaseboer, and that French postage due essay is mentioned, but you have to have his CD in order to see the pic. But thanks to millersville , we have a much better pic now. But as stated earlier, I don't know if the pic is of a genuine original.
I have Klaseboer (genuine paid for)
I could not find it?
Can you point to where it lies please khj?
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