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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 13:42:40 GMT
Glad you like them. Happy to post for all to see. I'll have to take more pictures - I've only done a few so far.
You've got a Turkish son-in-law?! Small world. (I have a Turkish wife!) But too many he/she/her in your description - I couldn't tell who was who?
The bisects are cool. I actually like the 'un-bisected' ones best.
Not sure which stamps you're referring to with 'offices abroad' - there are several - I have a nice collection of them developing slowly - but none pictured here as yet?
(There is Austria; Germany; France; Great Britain; Russia; Poland; Romania; Italy - all with offices in the Turkish empire. And I've prob left out a few!)
The last picture - at the bottom - are all 'local' posts. On top of the bisects (the large/colorful squares ) are also locals. Top right are 3 cinderellas from the 1900 Paris exhibition.
If I haven't described the one you're asking about, please just point it out...
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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 13:49:48 GMT
Are these what you were asking about?
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Post by mdroth on Mar 14, 2018 13:51:49 GMT
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 14, 2018 14:08:34 GMT
Sorry I'm so unclear yes my new son in law is a born Turk.We actually gave him his first Christmas two years ago.Was a Moslem,a Jew and a house full of Christains all together, world peace anyone? Yes those are the offices I was talking about.My own knowledge is from helping Mom with her WW collection.The locals are really cool.You have an amazing collection as anyone can see.Looks like 90% plus complete.Great work although how can we call a labor of love work? Congrats on your fifty post milestone. Thanks for sharing these.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 14, 2018 14:47:16 GMT
Glad you like them. Happy to post for all to see. I'll have to take more pictures - I've only done a few so far. You've got a Turkish son-in-law?! Small world. (I have a Turkish wife!) But too many he/she/her in your description - I couldn't tell who was who? The bisects are cool. I actually like the 'un-bisected' ones best. Not sure which stamps you're referring to with 'offices abroad' - there are several - I have a nice collection of them developing slowly - but none pictured here as yet? (There is Austria; Germany; France; Great Britain; Russia; Poland; Romania; Italy - all with offices in the Turkish empire. And I've prob left out a few!) The last picture - at the bottom - are all 'local' posts. On top of the bisects (the large/colorful squares ) are also locals. Top right are 3 cinderellas from the 1900 Paris exhibition. If I haven't described the one you're asking about, please just point it out... I agree with Frog ( firstfrog2013), these posts of classic Turkey material are excellent. Thanks for sharing, mdroth! I also really like the Austria Offices Abroad, too, although I think that those images belong in a different thread.
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:26:34 GMT
And since everyone seems to like pictures - and I don't want this thread to disappear from existence:
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:54:01 GMT
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:54:56 GMT
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:55:48 GMT
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:56:40 GMT
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 10:59:08 GMT
Bored yet?? Holler if you are... I'll try to show just some that most don't see frequently. if there are specific items you'd like to see - if I have them - will be happy to post - just let me know! post image
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 15, 2018 14:29:29 GMT
mdroth I really love some of these issues my wish is I was more informed to refer to the catalog numbers but the issues printed on the reddish paper really stand out.I also like those taller stamps similar to their shorter cousins.Now that's how to describe stamps....
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Post by mdroth on Mar 15, 2018 17:03:19 GMT
Seriously?!?
Red ones & tall ones??!!
If you start talking about the short fat ones, I'll really get nervous!!
The 'red' ones are postage dues. J42-J58, in case you're interested in boring catalog numbers!
I agree - the 'tall' ones are sharp - only 5 of them - #146-150. The new sultan had just taken over & there was a new constitution - to 'make the Ottoman Empire great again' - so they didn't have time for completely new designs - stole from the old's sultan's design & added some glitz to the top! Called the old ones 'fake stamps' & began his reign by touring the hinterlands to visit the peasants & issue stamps to celebrate his 'greatness' - see Scott #s 165-182 et al...
Doesn't it suck when history is accurate?!!
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 15, 2018 19:55:27 GMT
Well if we can't have fun calling stamps names we become a boring bunch.See people you really don't have to get technical all the time.The dues are nice though I suppose the color helped catch post workers eye.The "tall" ones have great glitz.And there you have it FUN.....
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Post by mdroth on Mar 17, 2018 19:12:48 GMT
Here's one that you won't find in any catalog. A full set (I believe?) of 'trial' stamps that were made for the Sultan's Journey in 1911. They ultimately chose a different overprint on 124 stamps - Scott #s 165-182 (times 4 cities!) and P69-P81, also for 4 cities.
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Post by mdroth on Mar 19, 2018 12:29:27 GMT
Here's a fun BOB error - a pair of Turkey #RAC22 that's imperf between:
And another similar error - same series - RAC9:
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Post by mdroth on Mar 21, 2018 8:00:00 GMT
Maybe something a bit more modern for a change? No scott number for this one - but explained in a note after the standard issued stamps. Commemorating the 100th anniversary of one of the Istanbul soccer teams in 2007...
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Post by mdroth on Mar 25, 2018 9:38:10 GMT
The first (forerunners) of Ottoman charity stamps...not included in my album, so had to make my own page. Very lame - no need to tell me! Not all complete - using blank spaces to store duplicates....
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Post by mdroth on Mar 25, 2018 9:42:07 GMT
Here is an even-more boring one...with Turkish Air Defense stamps from 1937...listed in isfila - not in Scott...
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Post by mdroth on Mar 26, 2018 12:23:00 GMT
A tough page to complete! The scarce ones are the green/tan/purple set one group up from the bottom - Scott RA178-180. Only 10,000 sets printed...
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Post by mdroth on Apr 4, 2018 16:25:38 GMT
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Apr 4, 2018 23:19:02 GMT
In the course of putting together my new son-in-law's Turkey xmas present I've come to realize Turkey stamps ain't cheap.I thought Canada and classic U.S. was bad,no comparison.Our friend mdroth has quite the collection.
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Post by mdroth on Apr 5, 2018 6:22:56 GMT
This is a surprising comment. I feel that classic US & Canada are significantly more expensive than Turkey. Like all countries, Turkey has some high value items. But with some patience & diligence, you can find them at affordable prices. As a certified cheap-skate, I can attest to this.
You can put together a collection of classic Turkey for very little, covering 99% of the issues. It would cost a lot more to acquire a comparable US collection. Although I have not spent a lot of time with Canada, one of the things that immediately turned me off was the high cost of the classic era.
That being said, the prices for Turkey have risen in recent years. I have made very few purchases over the past couple years, both due to the fact that there is very little left that I need, and that the prices have gone up a lot.
The relative printing quantity of Turkish stamps is extraordinarily low compared to the US. The prices for Turkey are still undervalued in my mind due to this fact. There is significant demand for Turkey, and the prices are starting to reflect this. But the demand is still very low compared to US or Canada.
Just to compare a couple issues to illustrate:
One item high on my wish list is the White Plains souvenir sheet. Just over 100,000 printed – making it one of the lowest print runs in all of 20th century US. Certainly can’t touch one of these in any decent shape for less that $100 – and generally more.
Let’s compare that to the Ataturk souvenir sheet issued in 1940. Also 100,000 printed. (Scott 841) If you’re willing to spend $20-$25, you can buy these all day long. And if you’re patient, you can get them for $10…
You can buy basic commemoratives for both countries for very little. But whereas the print runs for the US are in the millions, the print runs for the Turkish stamps are generally less than 100,000.
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Post by Bombadil on Jun 19, 2018 17:31:02 GMT
" Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (1881-1938) was an army officer who founded the independent Republic of Turkey out of the ruins of the Ottoman Empire.
In May 1919, Atatürk began a nationalist revolution in Anatolia, organizing resistance to the peace settlement imposed on Turkey by the victorious Allies. This was particularly focused on resisting Greek attempts to seize Smyrna and its hinterland. Victory over the Greeks enabled him to secure revision of the peace settlement in the Treaty of Lausanne. In 1921, Atatürk established a provisional government in Ankara. The following year the Ottoman Sultanate was formally abolished and in 1923 Turkey became a secular republic with Atatürk as its president. He established a single party regime that lasted almost without interruption until 1945. He launched a programme of revolutionary social and political reform to modernize Turkey. These reforms included the emancipation of women, the abolition of all Islamic institutions and the introduction of Western legal codes, dress, calendar and alphabet, replacing the Arabic Ottoman script with a Latin one. Abroad he pursued a policy of neutrality, establishing friendly relations with Turkey's neighbors.
"The civilized world is far ahead of us", he told an audience in October 1926. “We have no choice but to catch up.” Eight years later, Atatürk’s government had joined the League of Nations, improved literacy rates and given women the right to vote, though in practice he essentially imposed single-party rule. He also closed opposition newspapers, suppressed leftist workers’ organizations and bottled up any attempts at Kurdish autonomy.
The Turkish Parliament granted him the surname Atatürk in 1934, which means "Father of the Turks". He died on 10 November 1938 at the age of 57 in Dolmabahçe Palace. In 1981, the centennial of Atatürk's birth, his memory was honored by the UN and UNESCO, which declared it The Atatürk Year in the World and adopted the Resolution on the Atatürk Centennial, describing him as the leader of the first struggle given against colonialism and imperialism and a remarkable promoter of the sense of understanding between peoples and durable peace between the nations of the world and that he worked all his life for the development of harmony and cooperation between peoples without distinction. " link link I first learned about Atatürk back in History class when i was 13 years old,i remember being fascinated by his pursue of freedom !! I still regard him as great Leader and Reformer. 1959,Nov.10 - Mini sheet Scott #1472a
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 19, 2018 18:45:03 GMT
This is the extent of my Turkish collection! The individual stamps from Needleman, back in the early 80's (while I was in Edmonton, Alberta); the s/s a short time ago from All Nations. The s/s caught my eye. I like it very much!
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Post by Bombadil on Jun 19, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
1st Natl. Postage Stamp Exhibition "Ankara 65". Souvenir sheet
1965 - Scott # 1674
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Post by Bombadil on Jun 19, 2018 21:50:07 GMT
Second "BalkanFila" Stamp Exhibition,Istanbul. S/s
1966 - Scott # 1714
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Post by Bombadil on Oct 20, 2018 22:53:15 GMT
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (1881-1938)
1959,Nov.10 - Mini sheet Scott #1472a
1959,Nov.10 - Scott 1472 - Litho,Center Embossed .
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 13, 2019 13:43:01 GMT
I tried to order an Isfila catalog from their site but ran into a problem.Seems first you need to become a member and get a password,well after completing that I didn't receive the link that was supposed to be sent.The prices were a bit mysterious to me too.Too many currencies listed to figure out what's what.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 13, 2019 14:03:20 GMT
I tried to order an Isfila catalog from their site but ran into a problem.Seems first you need to become a member and get a password,well after completing that I didn't receive the link that was supposed to be sent.The prices were a bit mysterious to me too.Too many currencies listed to figure out what's what. Sorry to hear it, Frog. I wonder if any of the other members already have a catalogue that they can share or can help you in some other way (like @falshung, blaamand, mdroth, or others)?
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