madbaker
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Post by madbaker on Dec 22, 2023 17:53:08 GMT
Thanks for all of this, folks. Much good advice here. The stamps I am sorting only go up to the 1960's so I don't have to worry about the post 2000 'explosion'. Thank goodness, at least for now.
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on Dec 22, 2023 22:37:54 GMT
Further relevance I have just learned for the Sika Deer (stamps as messengers) The Sika deer was chosen as, in Japan, it is traditionally seen as a messenger between the earth and the spirit world. link And, for whatever it's worth, "Sika" is pronounced like "shika", and is the word for "deer" in Japanese. [edit: image coming here shortly. Never mind -- I cannot make the image smaller on the fly. I thought I knew how, but it's not working.
In the meantime, see the Etymology paragraph in this article:]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sika_deerWhy does this "h" suddenly appear? It's because of the Romanization system being used. In this case, it's the Hepburn romanization system, which is an old classic method, and was used when I started taking Japanese in college. My sense is that is not in as much favor as it once was. The simplest 2 things I can think of that an ordinary person would need to know is (although there is a lot more to the differences that just these): - "si" is pronounced like "shi"
- "tu" is pronounced like "tsu"
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 23, 2023 0:45:52 GMT
PhilatariumCan we explain why Mount Fuji is transliterated as Mount Huzi in some Tourist catalogues?
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peter
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Post by peter on Dec 23, 2023 2:42:17 GMT
Philatarium Can we explain why Mount Fuji is transliterated as Mount Huzi in some Tourist catalogues? Huzi is the spelling using the Nihon-shiki romanization method (and the older Kunrei-shiku method upon which Nihon-shiki method is based).
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on Dec 23, 2023 3:13:41 GMT
Philatarium Can we explain why Mount Fuji is transliterated as Mount Huzi in some Tourist catalogues? Yes. peter has answered, but perhaps I could provide another chart. If you'll refer to this Wikipedia article about hiragana, look at the first chart, titled basic hiragana characters: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiraganaThat chart works kind of like an Excel spreadsheet, with vowels in columns and consonants in row. If you look down the rows at the consonants, you'll find the row for "h". The intersection of that row with the columns are the 5 syllables that start with the "h" sound and end with the vowel: ha hi hu he ho. And you can see it's the same model for other consonants, such as: ka ki ku ke ko or: ma mi mu me mo Now, here's the trick: the pronunciation of 'hu' is kind of an exception: it can be pronounced 'hu' or 'fu', and really is kind of pronounced like it's halfway in between those 2 sounds. Conveniently, Wikipedia again has a short write-up and addresses the hu/fu situation in the first paragraph: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_(kana) Here are a couple of other short links that discuss the hu/fu amalgam and perhaps round out the understanding a little bit: jref.com/threads/the-japanese-fu-sound.5586/soranews24.com/2015/01/04/the-science-behind-why-we-cant-pronounce-the-japanese-fu/I'm never sure how much detail is too much or not enough. My fingers are crossed that this is somewhat helpful.
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Philatarium
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Post by Philatarium on Dec 23, 2023 4:30:50 GMT
I missed the 'zi' part of Rodney's question.
This works pretty much the same way. Go down to the 'z' row, and intersect with the 'i' column.
That would result in 'zi', but once again, it's a little bit different, and pronounced 'ji'.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 23, 2023 5:34:30 GMT
I'm never sure how much detail is too much or not enough. My fingers are crossed that this is somewhat helpful. Philatarium If, just one person / collector, finds the information (Whilst it is available) helpful, then you have done your job.
The joy I get, from sourcing philatelic information, from monographs written some as early as 1890 is inestimable. I have re-visited forum posts from as early as 2000 when I was asking how to read Japanese dates. This is one blessing of the internet.
Imagine the joy, when the Rosetta stone was cracked... we could read heiroglyphics!
Imagine the sadness when the Library of Alexandria was burnt, and what we lost.
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cursus
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Post by cursus on Jan 12, 2024 12:30:34 GMT
1982: opening of the line Tohoku - Shinkansen. 1920 train.
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anilkhemlani
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Post by anilkhemlani on Jan 13, 2024 7:53:32 GMT
managed to put all the new received Japan stamps into one Stock sheet hope I can get more to move them into an album
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sudbury12000
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What I collect: Canada, Great Britain, Germany, World Pre 1925
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Post by sudbury12000 on Mar 14, 2024 19:43:02 GMT
This just arrived today. Not sure who the manufacturers of this is, but for some reason I want it framed! It is about 40cm x 50cms. No high values but some nice cancels and nice educational exhibit!
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Mar 15, 2024 1:02:08 GMT
Emperor Taisho (Emperor Yoshihito) 123rd Emperor of Japan Enthronement Sc#150 and #151 The Enthronement Room, Kyoto. Perf 12 x 12½ 4 sen and 10 sen. November 10th 1915 Anglicised Postmarks YOKOHAMA and OSAKA (For overseas mail / usage ?)
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Post by ponso1 on Mar 24, 2024 18:30:39 GMT
Hello all! Please see Japan 263 below. Is the yellow stamp a color changing? I have never seen this stamp in yellow before. Much thanks!
sorry for the blurry image!
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Mar 24, 2024 20:25:58 GMT
Hello all! Please see Japan 263 below. Is the yellow stamp a color changing? I have never seen this stamp in yellow before. Much thanks!
sorry for the blurry image! @ponsol1 Hi Ponsol1 Any postage stamp, off cover and cancelled, dictates that it has been used (handled) Sometimes very poorly by new collectors. Ergo, this is possibly a "colour changeling" that is, faded by poor soaking, or light damage (the pigment fades) A very common occurrence and can be confused with "ink shades"
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Mar 24, 2024 23:46:28 GMT
ponso1 , I would like to suggest that this is possibly just a shade variety. The Sakura catalogue of Japan does not list shades but I would imagine when the JSCA (Japan Specialized Catalogue, 1937 to 1948) is published later this year that shade varieties of this type will be in it. The earlier Chrysanthemum series, 5 sen definitive has color shades of yellow-orange, orange-yellow and yellow. Using this as an example, I would hazard a guess that this is indeed a shade variety and will have no premium in value.
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Post by ponso1 on Mar 25, 2024 20:05:33 GMT
Thanks for the replies!
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 22, 2024 8:58:31 GMT
Japan Antique Numerals / Modern Numerals.
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Post by gmstamps on May 29, 2024 5:10:59 GMT
Imperial Japanese Stamps - Still need to identify (any help will be greatly appreciated).
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Post by franoise on May 29, 2024 5:17:04 GMT
First row : Silver Wedding,year 1894,Michel # 70 & 69
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 29, 2024 9:01:26 GMT
Imperial Japanese Stamps - Still need to identify (any help will be greatly appreciated). Bottom Row Japan Revenue Stamps General Tax revenues 1898 From a set of 13 5 rin (4th in the set) 1 sen Blue (5th in the set) Top row, Scott 85 and 86 (Anglicised Pmks, suggest international postal use)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 29, 2024 13:44:04 GMT
Imperial Japanese Stamps - Still need to identify (any help will be greatly appreciated). gmstampsThe 1898 Revenue Full Set
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on May 30, 2024 1:24:53 GMT
gmstamps , the Silver Wedding pair of stamps have two different varieties of Roman letter postmarks which are identified in the ISJP Monograph #7 as Double Circle Postmarks with Meiji Year. This postmark was in use during the early 1890s in Yokohama as well as other cities like Kobe, Tokio and Nagasaki. On the 5 sen on the left, below, the lettering is without serifs whereas the 2 sen on the right is with serifs and in a smaller typeface.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jun 2, 2024 0:28:34 GMT
If you follow my FB page you know that I spend a lot of time focusing my collecting time on earlier Japanese stamps like Chrysanthemums and Kobans but I also like the modern stuff, despite the extreme number of stamps Japan issues each year. This definitive series that started in 2014 caught my eye and the giveaway from philatelia really helped me to get closer to having one each. A very pretty series like most Japanese stamps.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jun 2, 2024 11:38:30 GMT
Very cool, darkormex ! There are also reissues of some values with a security feature added. The 94y, 100y, 120y, and 140y are the values that I know exist issued with and without the security features. I’m missing the 100y reprint - such a common stamp! Scott numbers for the reprints are 4486-89, reissued in 2021. They are difficult to see in a picture, but if you examine the upper right corner of the stamp there will be a shimmery Japan Post symbol and a flower in the lower left corner. Let me try to get a pictured side by side example. I had to angle the camera to get these to show up.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jun 2, 2024 12:34:17 GMT
philatelia , thank you for the heads-up! The Sakura catalog I am using notes that as well. I am mounting on pages this morning and am going to re-examine my dupes to see if I have this. Just found that I have the 100y denomination with the security feature.
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jun 2, 2024 16:05:17 GMT
philatelia, you might be interested to know that Sakura also has given new provisional catalog numbers to the 1y, 5y, 20y, 30y and 50y which were re-printed in 2017 and 2018 by a different method, gravure, but are difficult to distinguish from the 2014 issues.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Jun 2, 2024 16:28:17 GMT
philatelia , you might be interested to know that Sakura also has given new provisional catalog numbers to the 1y, 5y, 20y, 30y and 50y which were re-printed in 2017 and 2018 by a different method, gravure, but are difficult to distinguish from the 2014 issues. Oh - good to know! Thank you! I read that you can distinguish gravure from litho because gravure has a hex dot pattern and litho is more of a plain dot, but that doesn’t always seem to be accurate. Hmmm will have to look. Someone mentioned to me that they thought the thickness of the papers felt different on a few of the low values. I want to credit them with that observation, but I can’t remember who that was!
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Jun 2, 2024 17:04:36 GMT
Here is a page done with all that I have from the 2014 issues. There are obvious holes and I think I have the 1000y high value somewhere (not sure if I am confusing this with an earlier issue) which I will mount later. I also have a separate page for specials like SON cancels, cancel varieties and premium items like the 500y below with printer's imprint and a roller cancel with city name of Izumisano (near Osaka) and date of September 30, 2023.
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anilkhemlani
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Post by anilkhemlani on Jul 3, 2024 16:54:34 GMT
one more of my stock sheets for Japan
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 1, 2024 7:32:58 GMT
may1964 JAPANESE POSTAL SEAL (Identified by the punctures) Use: for sealing the envelope for value declared mail for sending cash Issued 1910 retail Value was 1 sen (=1/100 yen) per 3 stamps 1st line is "ka-Kaku-Hyou-Ki" = value declared Source and Author : "Unechan"
Unechan 2018
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Aug 1, 2024 14:41:22 GMT
may1964 This looks like your stamp (Grey with suspected Light or chemical damage) JAPAN FREE OFFICIAL CASH MAILER Narumi Catalogue 2019 Page 144 Stamp P14a (It seems) 1947 You shall need to have a Japanese native speaker to understand the (carmine) overprint The catalogue does not show this overprint It doesn't show it punctured either? Punctures appear to have ceased in 1910 Grey only appears in 1947 (perforate)
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