New Zealand: Chalons - 1855-1873

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Thought I might show the readers that don't know the difference between perforating options.


Extraordinary ! the second copy down, reminds me of the "Grover" comb perforator
"Jumping" on the last puncture down, when, presumably the advance mechanism, hit the "stops"
Evidenced on some (Australian) King George sidefaces.

That is some radical perforations, and, explains my recent reading of the comments directed towards
some New Zealand collectors of the time (1908) by the then elitists, apparently showering
belittling and untempered abuse. "Anti Newzealanders" was coined. (Author "Wakatipu" )
Thankfully, modern research, and the wide broadcast of the internet has now blunted those ignorant types.

Hi Dave

I still can't tell with any certainty which perforating head was used on a single stamp. None of my used blocks are dated, so we can't be certain when the two comb heads were used / stopped.

Interesting Robert Odenweller thought most 1/- stamps were line perforated. Here is my example which clearly shows a comb head. Also, a 6d again showing a comb head.

Grant

Very nice items Grant.  Could find a place for those in The Collection 

The only block I think I have is the below, but perfs not as obvious as yours.  These are SG110.

Neil

I was under bidder on a few items but only landed a Maori Land War 2d blue with roulettes.  Would have liked the SG1 vertical pair but didn't have deep enough pockets.  I was interested in the 4d Yellow provisional too, but someone wanted it more than me 

I found this image from the Branam auction.  Another interesting comb perf image.  Irregular comb by the looks.

Certainly damaged in Jan 72

Here is where we got to re. the Wellington '070' duplex damage & Time Indica application:

Damage free - AU 28 71
Damaged - NO 12 1871

Time Indica not present - AU 28 71
Time Indica present - OC 8 71


The color change for the 1d, 2d & 6d stamps occurred during October 1871.

More examples required to 'tighten up' on these dates.



Dave

LOL

For a common p12½ 2d orange on cover I think it is way over priced! Only by about 200%

I would pay NZ$250 max.

I don't think that I want it that much then Neil    But thanks for the opportunity....... 








Dave

Hmmm, I wonder why?

Someone with more money than sense may pay those prices. But not me.

As a side note, I actually do collect my birth date on stamps, but not at any price. 

Nope. It can stay with him and his fancy prices.



Dave

Hi Team,

On another note I was looking at an auction from the Benelux, and the below is being offered.  Apart from the Spiro Brothers forgery 2d Blue, what took my eye was the image on which you place a stamp at the top.  I wonder what that image is and who produced it?  Is that a Jeffryes? No not in a 1d.  Is it Spiro?  Seems cleaner than those.  Is it a Torres? Heard of them but not seen too many.  

Or is it just a local artists copy for the album page?  I wonder who took the time to draw it?  

Interesting.  Well I find it interesting anyway.  

Neil

Here is another cut from a stamp album. (sorry for the upside down photo, doing too many things at the same time. Also some others interesting manuscript cancels and cancels on same page)

I would say '66 Neil. The top of the 2nd year number is curved. A five would have a flat top.


Dave

The imperf. 2d pair you show above look like SG39 to me with that wear of the plate, but could be a late SG38 going into SG39.

There are numerous shades of blue in these printings:

Blue, pale greenish blue, greenish blue, dull deep blue, deep blue, dull blue, pale blue.

Yours looks like a shade of deep blue from the pic you supply. It may have been printed on a paper that was still a little damp (wet print). Not sure it is a 'kiss' print.

What do others think?



Dave

That's a much better picture of the 4d Rose Neil. I was looking at it originally on my iphone and when enlarged thought I saw a curved top to the 2nd year number, but your image above doesn't show the top of it at all!
As we cannot see anything of the top half of that number we'd have to err on the side of caution and say it is 'probably' a 6.

Nice CDS tho' 

That image of Queen Victoria is a bit scary!

We need to find out who produced the images in the early KA-BE albums. Research needed unless someone reading this knows and can enlighten us all.


I was looking at Ashford Stamps 'Direct Sale' of Chalons 2022-23 and see he had a lot for sale in there of some forgeries :


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Dave