vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 4, 2024 20:21:13 GMT
Your double ring date stamp “ PKXP. No 2 C. UTR “ is a railway sorting carriage. TPO . Which presumably took it from the port of entry in Sweden up to,Stockholm,
I cannot give derails of the route however.These are out with the scope of my old Facit postmark catalogued .
Your London postmark is described as " HOODED CIRCLE " type , (Not Mickey Mouse ears!)
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on Aug 4, 2024 20:42:59 GMT
Your double ring date stamp “PKXP No 2 C . UTR“ is a railway sorting carriage. TPO . Which presumably took it from the port of entry in Sweden up to,Stockholm, I cannot give derails of the route however.These are out with the scope of my old Facit postmark catalogued . Thanks Alex, much appreciated. I've never seen a Swedish TPO postmark before. Cool. Using PKXP [Postdupéwzpwsirionwe] as the starting point, I was able to find some other useful information. This looks like a good overview: www.tpo-seapost.org.uk/tpo2/tpsweden.htmlI assume No.2 is the train number. I'll keep looking for other examples. Thanks again. Cheers,
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 4, 2024 20:48:09 GMT
Your double ring date stamp “ C.UTR …….PKXP. 33N “ is a railway sorting carriage. TPO . Which presumably took it from the port of entry in Sweden up to,Stockholm, I cannot give derails of the route however.These are out with the scope of my old Facit postmark catalogued . Thanks Alex, much appreciated. ERROR ABOVE EDITED Hugh I have had another look and revised my description please delete the bit you quote It is in fact PKXP No 2 C . UTR .
I am about to post a hooded circle LONDON Example
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Post by Hugh on Aug 4, 2024 21:16:05 GMT
Hugh I have had another look and revised my description please delete the bit you quote It is in fact PKXP No 2 C . UTR .
I am about to post a hooded circle LONDON Example
Thanks again. I) I edited my original reply to delete the first phrase and replace it with the revised one, as requested. 2) Thanks for the example of the 'hooded' circle. If I squint, I still think it looks like mouse ears.
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Post by kasvik on Aug 4, 2024 21:40:10 GMT
Hi kasvik (or anyone else) ... can I pick your brain on the Swedish postmarks on the back of this cover? I've been playing with them this rainy afternoon but it's totally out of my area. It's a British cover from (yes, once again) Frederick Huth & Company to Stockholm. My question is about the two cancels on the back. As I said, I currently know nothing about Swedish postmarks but the arrival cancel, from Stockholm, seems clear enough ... STOCKHOLM. The day and month, I assume, are the 18 above the 10 for October 18. The year is split on either side ... 1895. I don't know what the K.E. means ... a postal station? The other postmark, I assume is the stamp that was applied when the British cover entered the country. It's dated 17/10/1895 -- October 17, 1895. The lower part of the outer ring has the letters PKXP but I can't quite make out the rest. Any suggestions? Thanks. PS - For HUTH fans, there is a nice stylized FH&Co embossed logo on the flap of the envelope. It's inside a heraldic belt.
I was innocently closing down for the night when... this is interesting.
Nice one. Addressed to Stora Kopparbergs Bergslags. The sender, with a noticeably bold hand, penciled in the first word. The company is still going strong, as Stora AB. No longer mining, mostly paper pulp. Right about PKXP 2. After the ship from London it went from Gothenberg/Göteborg by train. Stockholm K.E. = Kontrollexpeditionen, mostly forwarding control for foreign mail. The only control seems to have been this stamping. Why did foreign mail passing through Stockholm get such an honor? Search me.
(As my fadda usedda say in Boiklyn, dems is da rules. And I would add, dose looks loike mouse eas, eben if dare not.)
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Post by rod222 on Aug 5, 2024 2:39:22 GMT
Love the "Hooded's aka Scrolls, Hooded, or Crested circles.
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on Aug 8, 2024 12:55:44 GMT
This is a cover from London to Poole ... written on January 3, 1824 and posted in London's 'Paid Letter Office' on January 8. What is interesting is that the PAID stamp is dated January 1825 and the date on the letter is January 1824. My guess is that the stamp is correct. I can easily imagine that the letter writer did what so many of us still do at the start of a new year ... use the previous year, in error, out of habit. According to John Hendy's History of the Early Postmarks of the British Islands (1905), the business of the Paid Letter Office was "carried on in a separate room, the object being to prevent collusion between the clerks employed there and in the other branches of the Inland Office." At that time, it was customary to use a red PAID stamp confirming that postage was paid to destination. There is also a handwritten '2' '9' on the front of the cover indicating the rate charged was 2p 9d. [Edit: See next post ... thanks vikingeck ]The red stamp on the above cover it not a perfect strike. So, for reference, here is example of the PAID stamp that was used (Hendy, p. 25, fig. 62): Poole, by the way, is a seaside town in Dorset about 200 KM south of London. The PAID stamp is cool ... but, for me, the fact that the letter was cross-written is a marvellous bonus. The writer wrote three pages in the normal way but ran out of paper (and presumably not wanting to increase the postage by adding another sheet of paper) decided to turn the first page ninety degrees and 'cross-write' over top of the initial writing in order to finish the letter. Trying to make it easier to read, they changed the colour of the ink for the crossed writing. There is no surviving indication, on the back, about when the letter arrived in Poole.
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 8, 2024 13:05:41 GMT
Hugh . I believe the actual distance London to Poole is about 111miles and the rate for that distance in 1824 is 9d not “2p” as you have written
there is a neat manuscript. “ppd”. Postage paid lower left , and the 9d is in red ink to denote paid in cash
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Hugh
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Post by Hugh on Aug 8, 2024 13:16:11 GMT
Hugh . I believe the actual distance London to Poole is about 111miles and the rate for that distance in 1824 is 9d not “2p” as you have written
there is a neat manuscript. “ppd”. Postage paid lower left , and the 9d is in red ink to denote paid in cash Thanks, Alex ... much appreciated. I've been focusing too much on France lately (smile). I used this chart ... notice how they write '2'. Anyway, I'll edit my post. Thanks again, Hugh
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Post by rod222 on Aug 8, 2024 13:26:40 GMT
HughPoole Dorset John Lennon bought his Aunt Mimi a house in Poole "Habour's Edge" He had been stirred into action after finding his aunt in tears on the stairs of the Liverpool home in which she had brought him up from the age of five. It was there she had bought him his first guitar for the princely sum of £17 and told him: ‘The guitar’s all right as a hobby John, but you’ll never make a living out of it.’ Lennon later had those words set as a plaque, which hung on the wall at Harbour’s Edge. (Dorset Life) Addressee : Henry Mooring ALDRIDGE Head M Male 41 Poole, Dorset, England Solicitor & Notary Public As a family, we would holiday at the beach at Bournemouth, Dorset 6 miles away
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Post by gbcc on Aug 8, 2024 18:25:37 GMT
All, Next weeks New GB Commemorative Stamp issue. Issue Date 13 August 2024 - Tower of London. Geoff (GBCC) www.gbcovercollector.co.uk
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Post by daniel on Aug 9, 2024 0:12:54 GMT
Olympic Games Wembley 29th July 1949 I was very pleased to have purchased this British Philatelic Association and Philatelic Traders' Society cover from vikingeck .
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Post by gbcc on Aug 13, 2024 18:59:28 GMT
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Post by gbcc on Aug 22, 2024 16:35:56 GMT
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Post by Hugh on Aug 29, 2024 17:29:02 GMT
I'm just starting to explore old Scottish postmarks. I've been working on this one. It appears to be a cover (no contents) sent on April 10, 1845 from James Gray & Son, in Dalkeith. Dalkeith is a town in Midlothian, Scotland ... about ten miles south of Edinburgh. James Gray was a smith and locksmith who was born in Dalkeith in 1788 and established his own business in 1818. His son, Alexander Gray, joined his father and in 1838 the business name was changed to James Gray & Son. By this time the firm was doing extensive business as Ironmongers. The cover was mailed to James Dearness, VP, Incorporation of the Hammermen in Kirkwell in the Orkney Islands. The Hammermen is an ancient trade association for those who 'worked on metal with a hammer' - that includes blacksmiths and locksmiths - like James and Alexander Gray. 'Dearness' is on the list of common surnames in the Orkney Islands. Ancestry.com lists a James Dearness (1802-1881) born in the Orkney Islands. If that's him, he would have been 43 when this cover was sent. The stamp appears to be a February 1841 penny red, likely an SG 10. There is a square obliteration in black ink with the number '98' - assigned to Dalkeith. On the back of the cover are some delightful examples of early Scottish postmarks: a square receiving cancel from Dalkeith on April 10, in black ink. A round paid / processing cancel (Edinburgh?) on April 11 in a still-bright orange-red ink and a square arrival cancel from Kirkwall on April 14, in red ink. Observations and corrections always welcome.
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Post by gbcc on Sept 5, 2024 14:38:04 GMT
All, Latest GB Stamp Issue 3 September 2024 Porridge - Commemorating 50 years of this British Comedy Sitcom based within a Prison starring Ronnie Barker as 'Fletch'& Richard Beckinsale as 'Godbar and first seen on the TV screens in 1974 Geoff (GBCC) www.gbcovercollector.co.uk
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Post by daniel on Sept 8, 2024 3:05:16 GMT
HMS Belfast Forces Postal History Society 21st Anniversary Convention, 13th October 1973. Carried on Board HMS Reclaim Diving Trials Ship.
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Post by gbcc on Sept 13, 2024 14:35:01 GMT
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