Graham's Mixed Lot Treasure Hunt

You certainly seem to have found lots of interesting stamps in your old album lot, Graham (radiocruncher ).... good for you!

This is the first time I have seen the name "States of the Church" used for these stamps, so I am happy to learn it.  I have normally found them in catalogues under the names "Roman States" or "Papal States".  There is a short thread about them here:

thestampforum.boards.net/thread/5143/italian-states-romagna-roman

Unfortunately, these stamps were extensively forged, so you may want to check out some references to see if you can get an idea about yours.

By the way, I forgot to say thanks for posting your colonial Africa pages, which were quite nice.

1867 2c. green yellow Papal State. Typographical print in black on colored glossy paper on the recto. For these specimens it is important that you see the fillets / dividing lines visible from all sides. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I wonder why it shouldn't be original ..?!

To be precise it must be said that the two specimens shown are both subsequent to the union of Italy, in fact Italy as a united nation was born on March 17, 1861.

The scudo was the currency of the papal state until 1866. It was divided into 100 baiocchi, each of 5 quattrini.

This segnatasse must be checked. There were two issues with similar but different colors with different catalog prices. Check carefully.

Thanks very much for your informative replies rex looks like I’ve got more research to do

Thanks rex I only really collect GB and have most of the specialised catalogues for that. I have a set of worldwide catalogues which gives me a starting point and I try to use the internet where that fails. Your knowledge is very good though and it’s fun to share the stamps in here to see what people think and also find out much more about them.

France? Portugal? Austria?  

Looking from top L-R- what I see is:

Row 1  Sage, but all have flaws, a pity as the obliteration on the 25c (center stamp) is nice- with the exception of #5 ( far right) all Type II, and # 5  has offset perf which eliminates the bottom border to determine if Type or II


Row 2  Sages are all Type II and all have flaws (some more than others)  Center Napoleon looks sound, 10c  Empire, 1862 Y&T # 21,and if color is correct in you scan looks to be one of the brown+ shades

Row 3  1F has serious flaws, #2 5c green Sage looks like TYpe II with a nice obliteration May 8(?) 1882 Orleans, #3 Ceres  25c Third Republic looks like #60 Type I (a better scan would help clarify, but the Type I is the most common), Napoleon 20c 1863-1870 # 29   hard to tell from scan if Type I or II, #5  30c Sage  flawed

Row 4 #1 another Third Republic Ceres 2 c,  missing  a tooth on left perf, but interesting obliteration, #2 Semeuse camée  (no lines in background) flawed, #3 Semuse ligneé (lines in back ground) both flawed, #14, 15c  Mouchan  1900-1902,  various shades  and a Type I and II , nice obliteration!, left side perfs weak, #5 15c Sage Type II , top right corner may be folded over, left... missing

Next pane

Row 1 # 1 & 2  Semeuse camée, appear sound (common) , #3 Semeuse lineé, 60 c, unused, perhaps MH, look slike a nice stamp-  #4 & 5  Blanc, appear sound

Next pane - Merson 1F, without the date I'd soak off the paper

Next panes

a mix of a few earlier stamps  and more recent  (which to me is 30's - 40's an d nto the 50's)  , Ceres, Mouchan, Sage and Sower (Semeuse) , and some French colonies- The 1 Fr Rose Ceres (bottom left upper pane) is circa 1945

If mine , I would soak all, with the exception of the several that look like they may be unused or MH

Some nice stamps, some not really worth keeping, and none jump out that would have a high CV

Cheers
Stan

Thanks for showing Graham(radiocruncher ); not the strongest of holdings, what with five King Luis I's and a newspaper stamp all from the late 1880's, but nice to see all the same.

I also found some French colonies in there which Stan (stainlessb) was asking about

Thanks for the info Chris. You must have good eyes to make that out. I will take a better picture and post.

Graham