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Post by stoltzpup on Apr 21, 2014 2:03:42 GMT
I'm still learning about the Swiss practice of printing stamps on paper with the gum in a matrix of small dots (or is the gum surrounding the small dots?). In any case, they're difficult for me to see, even with a loop. Sometimes Scott list the ordinary (smooth) gum stamps with main numbers, sometimes not, sometimes the grilled gum stamps get the main numbers. Sometimes they don't say whether the gum is ordinary or grilled, as for example on some in the range of numbers 2o1 to 2o30. I suppose my having this problem shows I'm an amateur with these stamps, but it is taking me a while to sort it all out.
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Post by rod222 on Apr 21, 2014 2:11:10 GMT
I'm still learning about the Swiss practice of printing stamps on paper with the gum in a matrix of small dots (or is the gum surrounding the small dots?). In any case, they're difficult for me to see, even with a loop. Sometimes Scott list the ordinary (smooth) gum stamps with main numbers, sometimes not, sometimes the grilled gum stamps get the main numbers. Sometimes they don't say whether the gum is ordinary or grilled, as for example on some in the range of numbers 2o1 to 2o30. I suppose my having this problem shows I'm an amateur with these stamps, but it is taking me a while to sort it all out. I see, I like the "amateur" stage of a collection  One learns so much, that is the enjoyment. Perhaps consider the German "Spargummi" it may be similar Bud, to save as economy during wartime PS: Spargummi is especially easy to see on stamps of Thuringa |
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Post by stoltzpup on Apr 21, 2014 2:36:26 GMT
A Wikipedia article on the postal history of Switzerland claims "In about 1930 Switzerland began to use "grilled gum", a light grill applied along the gum to counteract the tendency for gummed stamps to curl. The grill is most obvious on mint stamps, but is faintly visible on used stamps as well. This was abandoned around 1944." The grilling is much finer than the Spargummi.
I find it hard to see on mint stamps, and virtually impossible on used that have been soaked.
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Post by stoltzpup on Apr 24, 2014 0:51:26 GMT
A couple more pages for League of Nations album I’m designing, part of the collection I recently purchased. Suggestions? Comments? There must be a proper name for the sheet in the second frame. Anyone know what it is?   |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 24, 2014 13:41:18 GMT
A couple more pages for League of Nations album I’m designing, part of the collection I recently purchased. Suggestions? Comments? There must be a proper name for the sheet in the second frame. Anyone know what it is? A very interesting question Bud, hopefully Postmaster can chime in, often seen with German and French emmissions. I think "propaganda" is too strong a word, perhaps an "advertising sheet" or "souvenir sheet" or "first day emmission sheet/cover" with favour cancels, but I am sure there must be a better phrase. Fabulous work so far. I find the iconography in the postcard image striking, the young lass with palm frond, a sign of peace, and victory of spirit over the flesh, in close harmony of the power of the Lion. Superb. |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 25, 2014 21:36:49 GMT
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Post by I.L.S. on Apr 26, 2014 11:26:56 GMT
What a great thread! Keep them coming!!
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Post by stoltzpup on Apr 26, 2014 13:21:20 GMT
I plan to include in the album I'm making pages for countries where the League had a direct impact on their philatelic output, such as Upper Silesia. |
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Post by smauggie on Apr 28, 2014 13:53:52 GMT
 Been wanting one of these Australia Map meters for some time now. Apparently you can surf on land through NSW. |
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Post by smauggie on Apr 29, 2014 3:41:50 GMT
I also picked up this cover dated December 26, 1913, local rate in La Cananea (A small mining town at the headwaters of the Sonora River). The addressee, James Cohn was a mining reporter for the Bisbee Daily Review (accross the border in Bisbee, AZ).  |
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Post by smauggie on Apr 29, 2014 3:59:47 GMT
WWII Patriotic Postal Card - With "Buy War Bonds" slogan meter. Reverse is advertisement for stamp dealer Frederick Dietz. Note "P" and "O" on sides of town mark indicating an impression made with a meter machine owned by a post office.  |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 29, 2014 4:02:35 GMT
Been wanting one of these Australia Map meters for some time now. Apparently you can surf on land through NSW. I don't think I have an example as yours in my collection. |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 29, 2014 4:15:04 GMT
I do have one Pitney Bowes Machine number "XE6" Yours is a "proving cover" 009 = CSIRO The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) is Australia's national science agency, delivering solutions for agribusiness, ... |
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Post by smauggie on Apr 29, 2014 4:15:44 GMT
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Post by lokos on Apr 29, 2014 15:35:24 GMT
WWII Patriotic Postal Card - With "Buy War Bonds" slogan meter. Reverse is advertisement for stamp dealer Frederick Dietz. Note "P" and "O" on sides of town mark indicating an impression made with a meter machine owned by a post office. ... Excellent smauggie. If its not too much of a pain the next time you have your scanner going, could you post a scan the same size of the other side of the card please. Rick |
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Post by smauggie on Apr 30, 2014 3:23:12 GMT
WWII Patriotic Postal Card - With "Buy War Bonds" slogan meter. Reverse is advertisement for stamp dealer Frederick Dietz. Note "P" and "O" on sides of town mark indicating an impression made with a meter machine owned by a post office.  Excellent smauggie. If its not too much of a pain the next time you have your scanner going, could you post a scan the same size of the other side of the card please. Rick |
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Post by I.L.S. on Apr 30, 2014 9:59:32 GMT
Has anyone noticed that this listing is listed as mint? There is clearly a cancellation on it on the left of center.  |
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Post by lokos on Apr 30, 2014 12:36:28 GMT
Thank you very much Smauggie, now I just have to figure out how to print that out so that it looks presentable and I will be adding it to my collection.
Makes me wanna cry a little to know that at one time I could have bought 50 of his "Poster Sheets" for $2.00 and now on a good day that doesn't even buy you one.
Appreciate you scanning the back for me.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 10, 2014 15:13:20 GMT
Very excited today Rick's penny black arrived safely and great stuff was included that I must examine(THANKS LOKOS)In addition waiting was a lot I feared I had overbid on but, definitely not the case on examination.All manners of back of book stuff many of which I will be sending on /share with others here.Of great interest is an almost complete ration book with most of the stamps in it.James would you like a care package to share with stamp club?I'll scan some treasures later(with right code)you'll see what a great lot this is.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 10, 2014 19:25:59 GMT
here's one of sixteen pages from this lot.Very nice mix.   |
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Post by Ryan on May 10, 2014 21:12:02 GMT
Oh wow, love that OX1 Officially Sealed / Dead Letter Office stamp! I can't even see the centre crease that results from folding the stamp over the edge of the envelope, it must be a minor fold that hasn't caused too much damage.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 10, 2014 21:53:42 GMT
The little blue button in center of second picture is some sort of ration token.Inscribed canada ration meat.Am sure someone here knows more.There are a couple damaged items but still very nice lot.I will be grouping some doubles together for distribution to those interested.Give me couple days to sort through.The extras and larger pieces will be set aside for our friend JamesW if all agree that seems right.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 14, 2014 20:06:03 GMT
Here is the other lot that broke this months budget.I had this on my watch list for two or three months before submitting an offer.This one completes my used blocks in this '03 set.Was a tough one to find.  |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 15, 2014 16:20:03 GMT
Ryan could you look this one up PLEASE.I noticed some of these pre-cancels are a bit better the fifteen cent CV $1000.Thank you sir.Also anyone is this a railway pre-cancel because of the design or the use??  |
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Post by Ryan on May 15, 2014 19:40:28 GMT
Ryan could you look this one up PLEASE.I noticed some of these pre-cancels are a bit better the fifteen cent CV $1000.Thank you sir.Also anyone is this a railway pre-cancel because of the design or the use?? There are no precancels listed in my 2009 Van Dam catalogue that look like that - for that matter, there aren't any blue precancels listed for any of the War Tax revenues. The railway ties precancels have clean, distinct prints, in black, with separated vertical lines (two different styles, one of them has single horizontal lines above and below the verticals), and those are only on the 8 cent and 25 cent values - see image, nabbed from an auction website. For the 1 cent sheet stamps, the only precancels listed are the heavy red "X" (upright and inverted), "DIV. 17" and a horizontal line of small separated black squares. There's also a 1 cent coil stamp of the same design, and it has only a "DIV 17" overprint listed.  It's not a detailed enough scan to say for certain, but I think your stamp just shows a cancellation with a wax pencil or lithographic crayon, similar to the 50 cent KEVIII block you show above. Ryan |
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Post by Philatarium on May 15, 2014 19:55:47 GMT
I definitely don't know what I'm talking about (not the first time, and certainly not the last), but, without knowing the context of Canadian revenues, this looks to me like a roller cancel. Were revenue precancels done as roller cancels? Or could this is a regular (post-)cancel?
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Post by rod222 on May 15, 2014 21:53:28 GMT
Ryan could you look this one up PLEASE.I noticed some of these pre-cancels are a bit better the fifteen cent CV $1000.Thank you sir.Also anyone is this a railway pre-cancel because of the design or the use?? I would second Ryan's suggestion, it is a wax crayon cancellation. I have the 1 cent War Tax "Div 17" precancel, that was ordered by the British Matchmaker MaGuire Paterson and Palmer 1919 |
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 16, 2014 0:08:11 GMT
I have a couple of the big red X's the four cent is a nice one.After looking at hundreds of these it still stands out as "different' than the rest I'll hang onto it.Learning what I can from Van Dam sales site believe I have a couple goodies.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 16, 2014 12:46:11 GMT
I magnified the image and it's definitely a machine applied thing too uniform to be anything but.The texturing leaves me puzzled.I also found a Company pre-cancel which I'm quite sure is a much rarer find.When I get some of these mounted in the right places I'll show you my excise/war tax issues.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on May 16, 2014 18:24:16 GMT
Dave, if this had a regular post cancel that would also be a bit better,Under magnification I seem to detect a T and a 7 very small in the cancel not real sure what it is.Could be something or nothing at all.maybe one day someone will know til then it will be mounted in showgard and in my care.
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